Bollinger Faces Students

PUBLISHED OCTOBER 11, 2007

One day after the discovery of a noose on the office door of an African-American Teachers College professor, University President Lee Bollinger faced tough criticism from an audience of student leaders dominated by representatives of campus cultural groups.

Bollinger faced a deeply frustrated and often angry audience, as students accused the administration of being unresponsive and disconnected. At several points, the University President found himself defending and justifying his record on issues such as diversifying the faculty and taking a proactive stance on racial issues.

“My mind keeps flooding with things that we have and are trying to do because I find myself wanting to persuade you that this is a University that I believe you can trust to respond to feelings that you have expressed and ideas that you have expressed,” Bollinger said. “I want you to feel and just to acknowledge in yourselves that this is a place that cares a lot about things that you have raised. ... We really have tried, but I really think we have to talk about that more and do more.”

“Students are tired of hearing what’s been done in the past,” responded Sam Rennebohm, GS and a member of Students Promoting Empowerment and Knowledge.

One student told the President that it was time for the University to stop “placating us with statements or whatever silly things like that ... [and to] re-evaluate these past initiatives because they clearly have not prevented the events of this month.”

Students complained about what they described as the inaccessibility of top administrators last night, and particularly Bollinger’s decision to not send out a University-wide e-mail on Tuesday, which they contrasted with TC President Susan Fuhrman’s visible presence. Bollinger noted that he did release a public statement to news media last night and sent an e-mail to the University Wednesday, but that he did not want to step on the toes of Teachers College.

“We may be two independent institutions, but we are one community; and we stand together in our commitment to oppose the frightening sentiments that lay behind this act,” Bollinger wrote in his e-mail to the University. “Tolerance and mutual respect are among the core values of our diverse community, and all of us must confront acts of hate whenever they occur within it.”

Students also stressed the need for proactive, instead of reactive, leadership from the top.

“My mom used to tell me that water never flows uphill and I feel like we live in a pyramid society where if something begins at the bottom, it’s grassroots, and it has a tendency to stay there, but if something comes down from the top, it has a tendency to wash over everything beneath it,” Jonathan Walton, CC ’08, said. “The futility that the grass at the bottom feels about not being able to reach the top is a deeper and deeper problem.”

“People are upset, people are working together, and yet these things keep happening,” Desiree Carver-Thomas, CC ’09, said. “We are working ourselves to the bone, we are working well together, and we need administrative support.”

Several student leaders said they were questioning their decision to come to Columbia, and that they had heard similar comments from first-years who have seen racist graffiti, protests over a speech by controversial Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, and invitations to polarizing figures including conservative writer David Horowitz and Minuteman Project founder Jim Gilchrist in their short five weeks here.

The students in the room tied yesterday’s incident—which is being investigated by the New York Police Department’s Hate Crimes unit—to a broader campus environment.
“For me this event is not just a single isolated event, it is about a context and it is about a culture,” said Bryan Mercer, CC ’07 and a member of SPEaK and the Black Students Organization.

This meeting was markedly different from a similar one that Bollinger held with student leaders three weeks ago after Ahmadinejad was invited to speak on campus. At today’s meeting, students were much more palpably angry at and less supportive of the way the University was conducting itself.

The array of students assembled was also substantially narrower, with most participants coming from groups representing students of color. The presidents of the Columbia College Student Council, Barnard’s Student Government Association, the Columbia University College Democrats and Republicans, the Columbia/Barnard Hillel, and the club funding boards were not present. Student leaders learned of the meeting less than 90 minutes before it began.

At the end of the meeting, Bollinger said there should be further conversations and invited students to compile a specific list of concerns to be addressed in future meetings with administrators, a task they set about immediately as he left to teach his class on Freedom of Speech and Press.

The Chaplain’s office and Provost Alan Brinkley plan to hold a common meal tonight at 6 p.m. in Earl Hall to discuss the incident.

Josh Hirschland can be reached at josh.hirschland@columbiaspectator.com.

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Q: Will the students of Columbia hold rallies in defense of Professor Suniya Luthar, a woman of color whose name has been dragged through the mud in this incident and who, if it so happens that the real perpetrator of the noose incident is never caught, forever will be a suspect in some people's minds?

A: No. They will not.

There are alot of things going on at Columbia that are wrong. They are tryinbg to hide facts of such acts to avoid the public to know , luckily this got to the NYPD and the media.

Sometimes situation is of discrimination even towards a student , and it has happen and the school tries to manipulate and violate their own policies to quiet down the student victim and intimidate with expulsion and /or the changing and manipulation of grades to make them look like they are "deficient ".

When in reality is discrimination at a personal level rather than academic. I feel disappointed to see this happen in today's world and in a University located in America's most liberal city.
I like to know where to go to get help as I have collected evidence.
This has affected my health and my future professional career.
Any suggestions would be much appeciated.

Thank you

About 1 million Whites were murdered, robbed, assaulted, or raped by Blacks in 1992.

In the last 30 years, 170 million violent and nonviolent crimes were committed by Blacks against Whites in the U.S. These are FBI statistics. Is it any wonder why people are afraid of blacks?

How does the crime of hanging a noose (which is an expression of free speech and not a crime to my knowledge) compare with the number of people affected by black crime? If you want to have a really valuable racial discussion, why don't you stop the high black crime rate or at least acknowlege that it exists, so that we can bring ALL the racial baggage out in the open.

As I see it, European-Americans have reason to be paranoid and of course it's not politically correct to say anything about the AA community.

Let's not bring facts into this! Emotion only!

i don't get it. bollinger didn't hang anything on anyone's door.

lol, sorry for the typo. "Utter and complete PC imbeciles." Like CLUBMED. Well, Clubby, why aren't you off at a clubmed spot then, instead of vocalizing your PC MoonBat views on this forum??? Methinks CLUBMED would do well to live in Tehran for awhile...you might get educated in "Totalitarianism."

thanks Jordan. I actually spent my summer at Club Med in France; loved it very much. I rather spread tolerance and respect than ignorance and hatred in this forum. And i forgive you for your typo and the insults u have been throwing at me.
Your suggestion is not a bad one. I hope students would go to countries/cities like Tehran to spread democracy and advocate for human rights.

It's so interesting how Columbia students applaud a man with much blood on his hands - Ahmadinejad - who will kill women and gays so much as look at them, and anyone who disagrees with him as well, - yet boo men such as Gilchrist and Horowitz, who haven't given any orders to kill anybody. Who haven't killed anyone. Who never will stone women or hang gays from cranes, or indefinitely imprison those who disagree with them, if not outright kill the dissenters.

Columbia Moon Bats - You are imbeciles. Utter and complete PC imeciles. Face it - Columbia is no longer a first tier institution, rather, it's a dhimmi PC paradise. An utter "multiculturalist" failure.

this obviously was a disgusting and hateful act, and as a student here, i think the perpetrator should be punished fully...

but i'm supprised that bollinger and the rest of columbia don't want to find this guy, so that we can invite him and give him a platform to speak. so we can debate him like the 'champions' of free speech that we are. after all, we let that madman speak his hate. so why not this guy? no matter how disturbing and trivial the views, we should be willing to let him speak, right? and maybe bollinger will say a few tough words at the beginning, and then everyone will be like "oh you're being mean to the little racist", and then we can ask some quasi-tough questions at the end and let him rattle on while he dodges and distorts. hey, a bunch of students will clap for him, too!

because the noose is really an expression of his views, not alowing it on campus is a violation of his first amendment right.. he just made a threat, ahmadinejad, to be analogous and literal, is actually doing the lynching..

if you think hate doesn't belong than you should have rejected ahmadinjead's invitation, as well.

double standard much?

I didnt want to dignify your logic but what the heck:

I'm no expert....but putting up a noose is considered a hate crime in the United States; thus punishable by law. Ahamdinejad on the other hand has not legally broken any American law no matter how repugnant he is. Plus he is protected by Diplomatic Immunity internationally.

Second, he's a slime ball but head of state who came to the US to address the Annual UN General Assembly. A head of state whose country and agenda is the focus of international scrutiny and global politics; thus controversial leader attending the world leaders forum after an invitation by SIPA. On the other hand, this noose bigot is more than likely an ordinary citizen who needs serious help.

Maybe after we find this person, he or she has some serious explaining to do; punishment isin't just enough. This person's future is in jeapordy esp. if a student or academic. Perhaps he or she may even write a book from prison.

i guess killing US troops is completely in sync with US law.. not to mention, the iraqi, Lebanese, israeli, palestinian civilians.. and all those iranian democrats who he has helped murder--but that wouldn't violate international law.

so what if he has immunity! and let's assume he didn't break any laws. his actions are completely atrocious. does he have to be prosecuted in order for columbia to realize this? certainly these actions are illegal, and if not they should be, columbia knows this, but i guess because the nypd is not involved in the investigation he can come speak. HE IS COMMITTING MORE SEVERE HATE CRIMES!

now, to your other point--must someone have a position of authority in order for his views to be considered worthy of debate in the eyes of the university? what kind of elitist mentality is that? does the little guy not matter anymore? bollinger says we must welcome and debate any type of opinion or reasoning (or lack thereof) no matter how egregious-- so if we catch this guy and he posts bail, doesn't bollinger want to invite this bigot to speak?

nowhere is columbia obligated to invite tyrants like ahmadinejad to speak--in fact, because we are a freedom-loving institution, we have a duty not to . inviting him here emboldened him--he returned to iran happy, having received sympathy. and having this terrorist-supporting dictator happy is not good news for democracy, and certainly not for free speech!

what's all this about writing a book?

No its not in sync with US law. Therefore, question why the State Dept allowed him to enter the USA to begin with. Second, question why he should receive the diplomatic immunity to begin with; who decides this and why give it to him in the first place.
The United States deports former Nazis in the US who have immigrated after the war. I'm with you in that why he has not been criminalized yet. Heads of state such as in Bosnia have been prosecuted for war crimes, etc. Why not the Iranian president? These are questions that should be addressed as well.

I dont think the noose person qualifies to speak at the world leaders forum. Do u? Sure, lets hear what this person has to say but at a different platform. I'm sure Teachers College is just as interested in hearing what he has to say as columbia.

Whether SIPA should have invited him or not, its their decision. Ask most SIPA students who are all graduates students and they would tell you dialog is necessary no matter how difficult to swallow.

Just 2 days ago 150 university students in Tehran protested against their president while giving a speech on campus. Just as Bollinger cited how the Council of Foreign Relations sparked a reaction in Iran, perhaps the speech at Columbia is going to have similar effect as mentioned by the 150 students who risked their lives to stage their protest.

Finally, this noose culprit has a lot of explanations to do esp if he or she is a student or faculty. The writing a book in prison remark is a joke and thats that; no need to get so worked up.

CLUBMED, you seem somewhat reasonable and i am beginning to like you.

If you don't think that i question the state dept and the international community for not being more assertive, you couldn't be farther from the truth. but let's not get off track here, we're talking about columbia.
columbia did not have to invite ahmadinejad, but chose to. this choice gave him confidence and sympathy. this is not good news for democracy. shame on columbia. i'm not against diplomacy, but it must be done smartly--not in some public forum at a prestigious university, at which to speak is an honor. he should not and does not deserve to get such attention, which is something he craves. of course, it's SIPA's decision, we're addressing whether it was the right one or an appropriate one.

also, the protest was great to see (the whole tear gass that followed sucks), but the end product of the iranian visit here was disastrous. he was pleased with the attention iranian media twisted the coverage in his favor, and bollinger ended up being the bad guy--this resonates on campus here.

"dialog is necessary no matter how hard to swallow" this is exactly my point, doesn't this mindset transcend to noose person? of course, he wouldn't be given the world leaders forum (let's hope not), but certainly if dialog is necessary there are many other forums or let's make one up, right? after all, this is effecting the school directly.

Don't you see the double standard?
So, are you suggesting that this noose culprit should be allowed to speak?

I'm glad you're getting to like me. I am human you know :)
I hope if and when we identify the noose perpetrator, that person should be grilled by the university and student body. He or she should be able to speak and explain him/herself. But at the same time face the shock and disappointment by our community. I just wonder how a coward like that would actually have the guts to speak up when given the opportunity and forum.
Above all, i really hope we find out who it is although i worry that its nearly impossible to determine who it is.
The truth is that it frustrates me to see columbia get baked in the public eye day after day; often with unfair reporting and intense scrutiny. An example: The coast guard academy didn't get this kind of scrutiny for a similar noose incident a week ago.

CLUBMED you are aware that your fellow students viciously attacked Gilchrist while he tried to speak at the school? I guess with liberals, 'free' speech' is pretty damn subjective. You can speak 'freely' as long as they agree with you, as in the case with the Iranian nutcase that tainted our soil a few weeks ago.

Yes, i am aware of it. Sad and disappointing. I hope Gilchrist can come again. My point being at least he was invited here to speak. The act of disrupting free speech is a whole different story and an unfortunate one. One interesting fact here is that there were non-columbia students who attended the event there and were involved in the disruptions.

But I disagree that liberals agree with the Iranian president. Letting him speak to explain himself does not equate agreeing; Its a testament to free speech and SIPA's testament to training its future international leaders and diplomats. Allowing a world leader speak at an event organized by the School of International affairs is part of their educational priorities - esp when he is taking center stage in the international arena. As mad as he is and no matter how much we disagree with him, he is a player in the international arena and the world unfortunately needs to deal with him; SIPA's invitation to him is important as it provides SIPA's students studying to be international leaders to practice critical inquiry, diplomacy and thought. Thats what I would expect from a college thats an expert in Iran-US relations. There is no surprise here. Its not about agreeing with what is said.I hope next year's event will include the Israeli Prime Minister as well.
If i'm paying that much money to send my kids to study international affairs, i'd want them to make the most out of their education, even if it means to have to practice diplomacy and restraint with a mad dictator.

"Several student leaders said they were questioning their decision to come to Columbia, and that they had heard similar comments from first-years who have seen racist graffiti, protests over a speech by controversial Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, and invitations to polarizing figures including conservative writer David Horowitz and Minuteman Project founder Jim Gilchrist in their short five weeks here. "
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I like how this is worded. Jim Gilchrist is 'bad' because he's against illegal immigration...and a (gasp!)..conservative. Ahmadinejad is apparently 'good' despite the fact that he wants Israel wiped off the map, hangs gays, and is of course anti-American...like most of the student body at Commie University..I mean Columbia.

"Several student leaders said they were questioning their decision to come to Columbia, and that they had heard similar comments from first-years who have seen racist graffiti, protests over a speech by controversial Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, and invitations to polarizing figures including conservative writer David Horowitz and Minuteman Project founder Jim Gilchrist in their short five weeks here. "
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My take is that you come to an institution that is engaging with issues that no other institution wants to address. In this first 5 weeks, the amount of attention and exposure these new students got is prob. more than what other college students would get in their entire 4 yrs. Thats what you should get coming here to columbia: the opportunity to hear both sides and address controversial figures and views. If anything the past 5 weeks, should encourage students to be more engaged in the Middle East and race relations in the US and abroad. Thats the sort of outside classroom exposure you can use to facilitate your overall educational experience.

I'm not a Horrowitz fan, but you know what, I would like to be there to listen to what he has to say and hopefully pose a few questions. Also, even though I say i'm no fan of his, I am going to do my own research and find out his various positions and not just inadvertently shrug of what he has to say . I'm glad we can have an open forum to attract the various news makers in this country and the world. Thats what u should get in a top tier school.

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