Protesters Denounce Islamo-Fascism Week

PUBLISHED OCTOBER 26, 2007

Clad in orange and chanting against racism, a small crowd gathered on Low Plaza this morning to protest the appearance of David Horowitz, CC ’59, in a rally organized by several student groups.

Horowitz's appearance at Columbia was part of “Islamo-Fascism Awareness Week,” a national effort which organizers say raises the profile of oppressive Islamic regimes, but which demonstrators characterized as “offensive” and “hateful.” The controversial campaign has sent speakers to over 100 universities this week, generating acute opposition.

While the rally included some graduate and undergraduate students, the crowd consisted largely of local residents and activists from The World Can’t Wait, a nonprofit organization aimed at driving out the Bush administration.

Demonstrators spoke out against Islamo-Fascism Awareness week as racist and offensive to all Muslims. “Horowitz believes that every person of the Islamic faith, regardless of circumstances or background or plans for the future, is inherently violent or conniving, or somehow untrustworthy,” said Shlomo Bolts, CC ’10, in a speech to the crowd.

“It’s taking an entire belief system and equating it into fascism,” Mahira Chishty, a first-year in the School of Social Work, said. “This is not a political issue—where do you stand on racism?”

Horowitz was also criticized for his conservative ties and allies. “It’s a campaign of demeaning Muslims that’s transparently disguised as an attempt to justify a new war with Iraq and Iran,” said David Judd, CC ’08, and a member of Columbia Coalition Against the War.

Noah Baron, CC ’11, said in a speech he could not take Horowitz seriously until he started organizing against American measures such as the Patriot Act. “People’s rights are not used to make a point,” Baron said.

“This whole program of misinformation is trying to provide a cover for the Bush regime,” said Jonathan Brown of The World Can’t Wait. “It’s providing a cover for bringing a fascist regime into the world.”

“We need to go to shut him down,” said Dan Peyser, School of Social Work, and a member of the Progressive Labor Party. “That means not just asking him tough questions. He should not have a platform to speak from.”

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Just what does Dan Peyser of the School of Socialist Work mean when he says: “We need to go to shut him down." Uh Dan, should we run at him with flaming torches? Pull him down like a pack of jackals? Throw him to the local residents, activist freaks, and assorted kooks to satisfy their bloodlust? What a joke you are.

Jebus, you people are so stuck on semantics you can't see the forest for the trees. We need a common enemy in order to fuel the military-industrial complex. We had the true fascists back in the 40s, then we had the communists as the boogeymen from the end of WWII right up until the early eighties. They served us quite well. When the commies went down, our defense industry was looking at an almost total collapse. Conveniently for them (and the greedy slobs we supposedly elected into high government office) a perfect enemy was provided for them on 9/11. It is an enemy that will sustain the spending of trillions of our hard earned ducats on defense almost indefinitely.

Horowitz is a shill for the folks who profit from what will be an eternal "war". Nothing more, nothing less.

Meanwhile, in other news, Orwell spins in his grave.

"Islam isn't a race, it's a religion" is a thin smokescreen used by these far-right jackasses to pretend that they aren't desperately afraid of anyone whose skin isn't lily-white, unless their job is to slander their own kind like Fouad Ajami and the sad little puppet "reformed terrorists" Lionpac brings here to shill for Israel. Yeah, Islam is a religion--a religion that JUST HAPPENS to be practiced almost exclusively by people of Arab, African, and South Asian descent. That's just a coincidence, though! Honestly! When people were trashing "Catholics" in the early 1900's, they may not have said "Irish and Italians" but that's sure as hell who they meant, and I don't think anyone would argue that anti-Catholic sentiment was at the very least racially-charged. The whole phenomenon of anti-Islamic feeling here at Columbia is the same way. Racially charged religious criticism. To say it's not racist because Islam isn't a race is splitting hairs. Funny how the people who are so adamant that Islam is a religion that you choose, not something you're born into, are also the people insisting that Barack Obama is some sort of brainwashed jihadist sleeper agent because his dad was born Muslim. I guess Islam is whatever they want it to be, a mutable punching bag that can be blamed for any problem we're too scared to look at honestly. American action in the middle east has killed hundreds of people for every American killed by terrorism. We have an overwhelming military and nuclear superiority plus a heavily armed proxy state in the region. In short, Islam, radical or otherwise, is no threat to us. These people pretending otherwise are simply expressing their own feelings of inadequacy and fear at being presented with people who live their lives differently and, like us, are willing to kill to defend their way of life. I have no interest in defending Islam or its violent actions (or, for that matter, any ridiculous religious belief) but to pretend that America is a saintly and vulnerable victim, an innocent bystander drawn unwillingly into the conflict and barely able to defend itself against teeming Islamic hordes, is to ignore the reality of the situation.

Ha, nice tactics. Raise hell about the appropriateness of the term Islamo-fascism to avoid engaging in any real discussion, and then cry Racism! until people stop trying to respond.

And then when someone notes that the term 'racism' is inappropriate, given that Islam is not a race - complain about 'splitting hairs' and semantic distractions.

Dumbass.

Muslim students who are concerned about "Islamofascism Awareness Week" need to publicly address the substance of the allegations being made against Islam. I don't mean events that say "Islam means peace." I mean serious discussions about the Quranic verses and Hadith that the other side is questioning.

These are the sorts of discussions that we promote through Muslims For A Safe America. For example, in the Religion/Identity area, we've put together "debate" handouts (one page, double-sided) on the following issues:
DEBATES ABOUT RELIGION AND IDENTITY
Why Should American Muslims Talk About American National Security?
Should American Muslims Be Loyal To America?
When Are Muslims Required to Fight, And Against Whom?
Should American Muslims Join the American Armed Forces?
Are Western Civilians Legitimate Targets in War?
Should American Muslims Work As Government Informants?
(All these handouts are available at
http://muslimsforasafeamerica.... )

Our approach is unique, because we don't present our opinions on these issues. Instead, we just present arguments on both sides of the issues, so that each Muslim can make an informed decision.

Muslim students can use such material to organize "fair and balanced" discussions about these issues. These events would actually begin to answer the real questions that many Americans have about Islam. These discussions would be a great response to the "Islamofascism Awareness Week" events that Muslim students are concerned about.

For example, Harvard’s Islamic Society hosted a discussion about different interpretations of The Qur’an: http://www.thecrimson.com/arti...

Kamran Memon, Esq.
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“We need to go to shut him down,” said Dan Peyser, School of Social Work, and a member of the Progressive Labor Party. “That means not just asking him tough questions. He should not have a platform to speak from.” --from the article above

What I think is that idiot Dan Peyser should not have a platform to speak from. Shut Peyser down - NOW!

"Muslims" do not constitute a race. The protesters demonstrate their astounding ignorance by speaking as though they do. How silly would it sound if someone said, "Fight racism against Christians!"

Please, kids, do not abuse language.

Now that IFAW has proven unsuccessful will Horowitz grow a spine?

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You obviously have no inkling of an idea as to what either Islam or islamofascists are about. You probably only have the memory of a fruitfly as well. You obviously are oblivious to the fact that the Muslim Brotherhood (which founded CAIR) was integral to Nazi Germany and that the Mullah of Jerusalem in WWII, a close relative of Egyptian born Yassir Arafat was an ardent support of the Nazis as was most of the muslim regimes of the ME then and now (gee, did we slime the German people in WWII by calling them Nazis, libs didn't raise a finger in protest; do libs slime the entire Republican party by calling them nazis and fascists without a second thought-second thoughts are rare for liberals/democrats because they rarely have any original thoughts to begin with). Be that as it may, the purpose of IslamoFascist Awareness Week is to highlight the highly cancerous strain of fascism in modern Islam. If you doubt that, you could sign off your Daily Kos and/or your Democratic Underground websites and read Christopher Hitchens' latest foray into the topic. You have to be willfully ignorant to deny the fascist mentality in Islam, or to wonder what is it about Islam in general and/or arabs in particular, that there were only about two fully democratic muslim states in the world, Turkey and Lebanon, prior to the US intervention in Afghanistan and Iraq. Two out of more than forty muslim countries, says something about the ideology behind those states. Moreover, don't come crying about Islamaphobia. For fifty years the same liberals/democrats who decry painting any muslims as fascists had no trouble tarring Roman Catholics as fascists because of the same phenomena we observe in muslim countries, that countries that were strongly RC also had fascist type gov'ts. Didn't hear any libs complain about that negative comparison, though. And before any other tinfoil wearer rants about supposed 'racism', Islam is not a RACE it is a RELIGION, of many different racial, ethnic and cultural groups.
So I thank David Horowitz and his group for raising awareness of militant Islam's danger to Western Civilization, and for those of you who don't think it's a threat, well, buy your burqas now, and GLBT members-you need not apply for membership under Sharia law, you're not even second class citizens (remember the next time that you are marching in Queers in Palestine parades, that if you did the same in Gaza you'd be stoned without a second thought).

Thank you !! very well said.

"...there were only about two fully democratic muslim states in the world, Turkey and Lebanon, prior to the US intervention in Afghanistan and Iraq."

This is sheer foolishness. First of all, there WAS democracy in Iran for a while with Mosadeq, but the CIA decided to torpedo it. That worked well. Second, in most of the Arab countries that are not democratic, the rulers are not Islamist but are secular authoritarians--a legacy of the colonial era. The rulers do exactly the same thing European imperialists used to do, what with their aversion to a "backward" religion and a secularizing, "civilizing" mission. So you're completely correct when you say that this "says something about the ideology behind those states", an ideology which is identical to those behind the fledgling U.S. puppets in Iraq and Afghanistan.

OK, take it from a guy from the trenches.

Even before FBI and NYPD came out with “ If you see something say something”, I did the exact thing........ And got fired from my job.

I found out that the Arab guy who submitted a leave application for one day to go home to Toronto was actually going to visit Capitol Hill during Reagan’s funeral.

The latter part of that I knew because it was told in a foreign language which he thought I don’t know.

But instead of a well reserved pat, after many closed door meeting by the directors, they decided to get rid of me, as they suspected I knew too much.

On my way out with the termination check, the receptionist came out and asked, “ Didn’t you know who are running this firm?”

Yes, it was and is JOINTLY being run by an Iranians and ???? Jews !!!!! – a few blocks away from Columbia!!!!

Lesson learned: There are fascists in every religon including those who cry wolf!!!!!

Muslims who say that 9/11 was not the work of their own fanatics mark themselves as radicals. It's the same principle that lets one detect a closet nazi. Simply ask whether the holocaust was real and was the deliberate work of nazi death camps. If they answer `no', they're a radical racist nazi. And unfortunately, it is no tiny handful of Muslims who are radical by this measure. It's several percent. A considerable number of these radicals will also fail the `are you a nazi' test.

These are the Islamic fascists, and their political/military agenda is going to be resisted. Fighting fascism is not racism. It's pretty much the opposite.

horowitz is right... these people are dilusional!

Fascism is defined as system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, stringent socioeconomic controls, suppression of the opposition through terror and censorship, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism. It certainly seems that it is an arguable point that serveral countries such as Iran and Syria who have a predominantly Muslim professing population would meet the above definition. It would seem that it would be better to let Horowitz have his say and then those who disagree with him could then dispute his views with presentation of facts that contridicted him. Instead it seems that many are telling what Horowitz believes without allowing him to agree or disagree with their interpretation of his beliefs. They attempt to shout down Horowitz or anyone who doesn't agree with their beliefs instead of engaging in civilized intellectual debate. As an outsider who has not followed Horowitz, I can only surmise that these opponents of his have no factual arguments to present and must resort to bullying tactics. That's not to say that there are no factual arguments to refute Horowitz, only that those who attempt to shout him down are intellectually incapable of debating him becaue they are not invested in facts but only in blind faith rhetoric.

I would caution any from following the tactics of using bullying tactics to silence their opposition. I am a member of a minority group which has suffered from this. In fact those who wished to silence members of our group enacted a law legalizing murder of our group in one state for over one hundred years until being overturned in the 1970's. The Nazi used similar tactics to supress the jews resulting in the murder of millions in an attempt at whole scale genocide of an ethnic group. Likewise the KKK attempted to use similar tactics to silence blacks and those who supported blacks in obtaining equality in civil rights. This is not a path any civilized person would knowingly take even for a few steps. To truely have and embrace freedom we need to be able to tolerate the free exchange of ideas, especially those with which we don't agree. To do otherwise is an attempt to destroy the freedom of all.

Glad to see that some people can see it for what it is: anti-Islamic ranting.
This is pure discrimination based on the radicals of one religion, we can do this with the radicals of any religion. That is not to say that any religion should be defined in terms of the radicals.
Racism is America has become a word synonymous with discrimination, Muslims don't belong to any particular race, so this is not racism. But discrimination, surely.
No, Horowitz, is using moderate Muslims as an excuse to demean Islam itself. This is coming from a moderate Muslim.

The real protests this week should be staged by America's professors. I have a colleague, a descendant of Hungarian Jews who were put on boxcars destined for Auschwitz in June of 1944, who has spent his entire career teaching students the proper definition of words such as fascism.

I'm sure he's appalled to learn that somebody with a Columbia education, David Horowitz, misuses that term in such a blatant manner. I understand Rush Limbaugh doing so; he never a single day in a college classroom. But there's no excuse for an Ivy League-educated person to do so.

Islamist terrorists bears no resemblance to Italian, Franco-Spanish, or German fascists. It is a gross misuse of the word by America's present-day right, just as the left a generation ago abused the word by calling Nixon a fascist.

Killing a bunch of people does not make one a fascist. Was Joseph Stalin a fascist? Was the IRA a fascist organization?

Why can't anyone in the world get on an airplane without going through a mega-billion-dollar security system? Think about it. Report back later.

Report: Because we think were are the most important people in the world though other countries don't really give a damn about us. Because we are hypersensitive about our "safety" against the "enemy."

I suppose rape victims who advocate increased vigilance for rape prevention are just "hypersensitive", too?

When apathetic Leftists of your ilk get the chance to pick up what's left of their murdered loved ones after an Islamo-fascist airliner bombing, then you'll be qualified to tell those of us who've had that experience that we're "hypersensitive".

Until then, kindly STFU asshole!

The killing has happened on both sides, open your eyes and see the injustice we have done to them as well. That does not mean that the killing here was justified. But we killed more people in their countries than they did here.

And who the F are you to tell me to shut up?

No, the murdering is NOT on "both sides", numbskull. Americans are NOT committing cold-blooded murder of innocents. Now you can stop slandering our military, you PoS. Didn't you and Jack Murtha learn anything from the Haditha Marines? Everyone of you pro-terrorist Marxists owe our armed forces an apology for these serial slanders.

The murdering on THEIR (the Islamo-fascists') side results from THEIR actions against THEIR own populations-- in spite of our efforts with our Iraqi allies to stop THEIR murderers. Stop fantasizing and take your Haldol.

As for "killing", I thank my God upon every remembrance that our brave sons and daughters are KILLING more Islamo-fascist enemies than they killed innocent Americans here. I pray to God that our guys put a bullet in the head of every terrorist they find over there. And I hope the next President has the opportunity to pacify Islamo-fascism the way FDR and Truman pacified Shinto-fascism-- w/o pity or remorse.

And that's right, I'm the one telling you (and all your gutter-riot, hate-America, Marxist street thugs) to STFU, assholes!

What's wrong? Forget to smash a girl in the face with a brick today, you fascist?

*spit*

if you think that Americans are "NOT" committing cold-blooded murder of innocents then you are willfully ignoring the truth and not worth arguing with. Even American soldiers admit this: the only kind of person who would deny it is a head-in-the-sand chickenhawk unable to accept that we have lost the war. Every war involves the cold-blooded murder of innocents on both sides. It's not just Haditha: we are looking at literally HUNDREDS of incidents. You can pretend Haditha didn't happen just because the US courts decided not to prosecute, but the sheer numbers of Iraqi casualties tell those of us in the reality-based community that American troops are doing their best to encourage hate and fear of America throughout the Muslim world. To think otherwise is naive and foolish: ask anyone who's actually served in the military. Unfortunately, the worse things go over there the more lunatic warmongers like you pray for more death and suffering. Anyone who prays to God for death and war is not someone whose viewpoint should be taken seriously, unless they happen to have a gun. You and the rest of the people crave death and destruction in God's name, whether you call him God, Hashem, or Allah, should all just kill each other and leave the rest of the sane world to get with our business in peace.

idiotarian @ 7:35pm You have no evidence supporting your allegations, so just STFU! Your serial slanders of American troops is nothing but venom and hate.

You're clearly LYING when you say you've talked to American soldiers who've testified to cold-blooded murder of innocents. Either their silence constitutes misprision of felony; or your LIES are misprision of treason-- which is it?

Keep making asses out of yourselves in public with these slanders of our honorable men and women in the American armed forces. Americans need to see the face of evil in today's Marxist 5th column.

Apparently, you're completely IGNORANT of the FACT that the Haditha Marines were exonerated and are now suing your hero Jack Murtha for his serial slanders.

Rational people don't deny that isolated atrocities occur in war. But Leftist moral cowards may NOT conflate terrorists who intentionally target innocents (the norm) with brave Marines who put themselves in harms way to AVOID the death of innocents. American Marines who torched Shinto-fascist bunkers in Iwo Jima are not morally equivalent to Nazis who shoved innocent Jews into ovens.

You Marxist peace-fascists promote more death and war by back biting our troops while giving aid and comfort to our enemies. Your insane street pornography for appeasement only encourages the terrorists and ensures more innocents will die.

And yes, I do pray for the execution of terrorist animals who've shed themselves of their humanity by willfully, mercilessly targeting innocents-- just as I'd pray for the execution of any mass murderer. It takes extreme Leftist moral cowardice to root for terrorists and fling slander at brave American soldiers.

Americans are not surprised that areligious Marxists want us all killed so Marxists can "get with our business". Yep, we all remember your "business" (witness Lenin, Stalin, Hitler, Mao, Pol Pot, Ho Chi Min, Kim il Sung, Mugabe, Honneker, Caeuseascu, Castro, Che, IRA, ETA, FARC, FMLN, PFLP, Rachel Carson, etc., ad nauseum). Americans are well aware that your Marxist-fascist allies are just as evil as the Islamo-fascists... and that you're in Unholy Alliance with the Islamo-fascists. Thanks for the reminder.

No, the murdering is NOT on "both sides", numbskull. Americans are NOT committing cold-blooded murder of innocents. Now you can stop slandering our military, you PoS. Didn't you and Jack Murtha learn anything from the Haditha Marines? Everyone of you pro-terrorist Marxists owe our armed forces an apology for these serial slanders.

The murdering on THEIR (the Islamo-fascists') side results from THEIR actions against THEIR own populations-- in spite of our efforts with our Iraqi allies to stop THEIR murderers. Stop fantasizing and take your Haldol.

As for "killing gutter-riot, hate-America, Marxist street thugs) to STFU, assholes!

What's wrong? Forget to smash a girl in the face with a brick today, you fascist?

*spit*

I just had to go and check out the Progressive Labor Party web page www.plp.org

Some quotes from the front page sidebar

Communism means abolishing nations and nationalism. One International working class, one world, one Party.

Communism means the Party leads every aspect of society. For this to work, millions of workers -- eventually everyone -- must become communist organizers. Join Us!

Great concept, capitalism is bad, so we'll wipe out the democracy and everone must be a member of the Communist Party.

Btw, I hardly think capitalism is bad, I do think the capitalist system can be abused by power mongers, much like the communist system can.

Here is a question for those who do not care for the name "Islamo-Fascism"- what would you have us call such people as Osama bin Laden, Ahmadinejad, and all those who practice or support terrorism against us infidels in the name of Islam? And what are you going to do to stop them?

ugh - terrorists???? Where have you been since the past 6 odd years?

I'd like to see a study on "protestors" that are addicted to protesting and creating controversary. Along with one on how often groups that associate themselves with extreme liberal causes misuse the word "racism" and similar words. Isn't that in essence an attempt to create division, "hate", all those things these people accuse others of.

If Islamic Fascism is term being used to describe the groups of those who practice Islam and support violence then what is the problem with having an awareness week? If its associated with attacking those of the islamic faith in general then its wrong. This isn't hard to figure out people.

The real kicker, I'd suggest one should be more concerned about Hilary taking us to war in Iran then Bush at this point. These people just don't get it, Bush is over, history, gone. He doesn't matter anymore. He doesn't make a good target, pick on someone that matters at least. Of course, didn't Hilary say that we'd have to stay in Iraq a while, probably years? and Obama also? They are all part of the same folks, and you aren't part of them. Have fun with your media event, oops, I mean "protest".

7:57pm: "I'd like to see a study on "protestors" that are addicted to protesting and creating controversary."

Here you go

See also, "Unholy Alliance: Radical Islam and the American Left"

"Islamo (not -ic) fascist" awareness week is an oxymoron, and the person running the debate is a moron.

Firstly - the term makes absolute no sense - if you were to translate the arabic term ( and I speak what broadly is an acceptable translation) Islam - MEANS submission to god or peace. So basically if you were to translate the entire phrase - it means submission to god fascist or peace fascism.

Secondly - there is UNDOUBTEDLY a group of muslims who are terrorists. No debate on that matter, just as there are a group of Christians who are extremists as jews, hindus, bahais, etc. Those people DONT define a religion.

Thirdly - Horowitz amongst other lies - does not even know the origin of the word and claims it to have started from some egypt/arab group - when in fact it traces much earlier than that. So he doesn't even know how to win an argument. His knowledge is limited to 7 years of terrorism that surfaced after the sept 11 attacks.

So your argument for creating awareness of "Islamofascism" goes out the window there.

Next, a superficial examination of a faith by merely picking up a religious book (in this case the Quran) is ridiculous! Scholars spend years understanding islamic jurispudence and history - you cant just take an islam 101 and then arrive at stupid conclusions that horowitz and his even stupider comarades arrived it.

I am kind of stunned that this week actually happened (keeping the racist issue aside) - it was not even an academic debate!

So if I name my dog "Kitty" does that make it a cat? You can call Islam whatever you want but that doesn't change its oppressive and benighted nature. If you want to play with the words then the submission of Islam fits rather nicely with the repression of fascism. They are two sides of the same coin and go hand in hand. Horowitz would mainly argue against the Islamic radicals but given the poor quality of the work that is the Koran it is difficult to see how you could end up with anything but a totalitarian state if its prescriptions were implemented fully. And indeed, history bears this out. Historically, those who don't "submit" in Islamic societies find themselves dead. The peace of Islam is the peace of the grave.

Ideed, even at this late date it is impossible to find a flourishing democracy where the majority of the population is Muslim. Turkey maybe, where the military stages a coup whenever the radicals get too far out of hand? Whereas fascist dictatorships are plentiful. The Baathists of Syria and Iraq are direct descendents of the Nazi party of Germany. The Iranian mullahs are just batshit crazy. There isn't a single muslim nation where human rights are respected. This is not an accident. This is the legacy.. and the shame of Mohammed. We do the people of the middle east no favors by indulging them in their delusions.

Well said!
-Applause from a moderate/liberal Muslim who has not idea why Horowitz is using us as an excuse to promote his own goal. No, his views are not very amiable to us, despite what he may say. He actually hates us because of our religion.

Why do muslim supporters say we have to be tolerant of Islam, but they don't have to be tolerant of Jews or Christians? Why does their holy book the Koran preach the destruction of those who don't convert to Islam? Why do muslims look down on 'infidels' but when we infidels look at them cross-eyed we get beheaded?

“We need to go to shut him down,” said Dan Peyser, School of Social Work, and a member of the Progressive Labor Party. “That means not just asking him tough questions. He should not have a platform to speak from.”

Wow. Shred the Constitution for political supremacy. Just... wow.

“Horowitz believes that every person of the Islamic faith, regardless of circumstances or background or plans for the future, is inherently violent or conniving, or somehow untrustworthy,” said Shlomo Bolts, CC ’10, in a speech to the crowd.

Where's your actual evidence? Oh, that's right. Never let facts get in the way of an agenda.

Mahira Cahishty, a first-year in the School of Social Work, said. “This is not a political issue—where do you stand on racism?”

First year, huh. Do you think by the time you graduate you can learn that Islam is not a race! Or will that cause too much cognitive dissonance?

“We need to go to shut him down,” said Dan Peyser, School of Social Work, and a member of the Progressive Labor Party.

"But WE BELIEVE IN FREE SPEECH," shouts Peyser. Oh, wait a minute. No he didn't. Apparently free speech is only for him and his leftist friends.

“That means not just asking him tough "questions. He should not have a platform to speak from.”

But it was okay to give murdering tyrant Islamoterrorist Ahmadinejad of Iran a platform.

Your parents are throwing away their money.

Anti-Islamic ideals of Horowitz then, if you are so against calling it racist. You will have to understand that there is not real term for the bashing of a religion. Beside, Horowitz is also anti-black (look up his views of slavery) - Horowitz is racist.

No one is "against calling it racism" it is not racism by definition. No one gets a vote on that. You can shout that you are against shrubberies all day long and you wouldn't sound any less coherent. Religions are philosophies and they are subject to question, analysis and even derision just the same as any other idea. There is much in Islam to be scorned just as there is in many other philosophies (especially those that fall under the rubric of "religion"). The difference is that Islam is the only one where you take your life into your own hands when doing so. The Koran endorse violence against those who insult the "prophet". That alone is enough to make it worthy of scorn.

Can the spectator please fix that - my name is Mahira Chishty - not whatever they wrote
Thanks

Right - I forget that the axis of americans as far as race is concerned is limited to black and white. They can't see beyond that - religion can enter the paradigm of race because it does not have a physical context.

Unfortunately the equation is not that simple. Look around you - people are being discriminated because of their "religion" case in pont - Islamofascist awareness week.

Remind us again... what "race" are Muslims?

The intellectual here is more concerned with the wording than the discrimination that's happening. Honey, what's the bigger issue? See the theme, the theme, the big picture...this is anti-Islamic ranting.

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