The Changing Face of a Neighborhood

PUBLISHED OCTOBER 30, 2007

Otto Leuschel, the bespectacled and casually dressed representative for Whole Foods Market, was sweating under the harsh florescent lights of the cafeteria at P.S. 163 on Amsterdam Avenue and 97th Street one evening early this summer.

Even as he energetically pitched the company’s “core values,” “animal compassion foundation,” and its “culture of empowerment and moving up,” it was clear that the couple hundred Upper West Siders assembled before him were not enthused.

True, many in Leuschel’s audience of skeptics were eagerly nibbling the Whole Foods-catered asparagus rolled in pancetta and other free organic snacks, but convincing the crowd of neighborhood residents that 57,500 square feet of retail space in the middle of their housing complex was to their benefit was going to be a hard sell.

Dozens of local residents lined up at the microphone to confront Leuschel and the other Whole Foods reps with their complaints. The store is planned for a corner that would court East Side traffic coming across Central Park. The store’s loading dock would be too close to where children enter P.S. 163. The store’s prices would be too high for neighborhood people, especially those living at the nearby Douglass Houses, to afford.

Leuschel answered each speaker, explaining that the company was committed to working with the local Community Board 7 to minimize disruption to the neighborhood, prices wouldn’t be as high as people expected, and solutions to traffic and trash around children could be worked out without moving the store or the loading dock.

Area residents promised that they were willing to protest, boycott, and do everything else in their power to make development happen on their terms. Growing exasperated, Leuschel replied, “I’m sorry the neighborhood is changing.”

Overseeing a Neighborhood Transition

With that statement, Leuschel revealed an uncomfortable truth.
The housing development known as Park West Village—which extends from 97th to 100th Street, from just east of Amsterdam Avenue to Central Park West—is undergoing its biggest change since it was built as a middle-income housing complex with subsidies from the federal government in the late 1950s.

Long-time residents, most of them still living in rent-stabilized apartments, say they moved to Park West Village because of its location on the Upper West Side, its comparatively cheap rent, its diversity, and its leafy open spaces.

“It’s a community unlike many places in New York where you don’t know your neighbors,” said Dean Heitner, who moved to the neighborhood in 1973. “We all know one another, and know a little about each others’ lives and meet frequently just outside on the benches.”

Today, walking down Columbus Avenue, passersby will see construction workers digging huge pits for the foundations of a glassy three-block-long retail corridor anchored by Whole Foods, and four residential towers with heights of 29 stories, 15 stories, 14 stories, and 13 stories, right in the middle of Park West Village.

The project is an “infill” development, meaning the new towers will be constructed between the buildings already on the site, replacing what was a strip of arguably shabby low-scale stores and a few tennis courts along Columbus Avenue.

Jeff Winick, CEO of the Winick Realty Group, confirmed that leases had been signed for 85 percent of the new strip’s storefronts. He would not give names, but did say there will be a bank, a sporting goods store, and a home furnishing store in addition to “a lot of smaller retailers from the community.”

Like Columbia’s proposed expansion into Manhattanville, plans for Columbus Village will radically change the population density and character of the neighborhood.

But unlike with Columbia’s expansion, there is no formal governmental process that gives local residents and neighbors a say in how development happens. Because the developers claim not to need a zoning change—building “as of right”—they do not have to go through the city’s extensive oversight procedure that gives communities a vote, albeit a non-binding one.

“When you don’t go through a ULURP [the city’s Uniform Land Use Review Procedure], that means you haven’t presented an environmental impact statement for scrutiny by the community and elected officials,” said Maria Watson, a long-time tenant at Park West Village. “They’re imposing on an aged infrastructure.”

But Peter Rosenberg, project manager for the developers Stellar Management and The Chetrit Group, said because of all of Park West Village’s open space, it is one of the least-densely developed areas in the city, and will remain so even after Columbus Village is completed.

“This is a responsible place for us to develop,” he said. “Almost every location in New York is infill at this point and, while we certainly regret the inconvenience that the residents have suffered, we’re going to try to do everything we can to make it as small an impact as we can for them.”

Among the area’s stakeholders—the tenants and condo owners of Park West Village, local schools, churches, business owners, Community Board 7, and elected officials—there are many diverse opinions. Some say developers are dropping something akin to a shopping mall right in the middle of their neighborhood and hate the idea of change no matter what form it takes. Some want upgraded stores, and welcome the organic grocery franchise. Most have taken a complicated stance in the middle.

As groups against the new development deal with disagreement among their own ranks, they, the community board, and elected officials have also tried to carve out a set of guidelines to follow as they bring the developers to the negotiating table. The developers are just as unclear about the objectives of their interactions with area residents.

“Residents, elected officials, the community board... we’re all trying to figure out ways that residents can get their voices heard in the absence of an official process,” said Jessica Silver, a community liaison in the office of borough president Scott Stringer.

Building “as of right”

Though the project is conspicuous to Park West Villagers today, it initially came as a surprise.

The site’s owners and developers waited at least six years after buying the property in 2000 to build on the site, as the city’s contract with the slum-clearance project’s first developer dictated the exact percentage of profits the complex’s owner was allowed to make for four decades, locking the buildings’ configuration in place.

The expiration of this 40-year clause snuck up on residents of Park West Village in late 2005, catching them off-guard and disorganized.

Initially, the developers would not meet with tenants to explain their plans, but they finally caved in to pressure applied by elected officials, according to Heitner, who is also the chair of the legal committee of the Park West Village Tenants Association.

“People were living in a complex, it didn’t look like anything was going to happen to it, and all of a sudden our landlord started excavating,” Heitner said. “We actually had to force them to let us know what was happening.”

The Tenants Association took on the primary organizing role, though, as many involved in the organization are quick to point out, the group does not represent the interests of the condominium owners in the buildings east of Columbus Avenue and includes few of the growing population of the complex’s market-rate renters.

The Tenants’ Association, divided as it was, followed a few different courses of action.
A hard-fought campaign to legally restrict building heights in Manhattan Valley from 97th to 110th Street was passed in late September, but Park West Village was left out of the new rezoning plans.

Park West Villagers and supporters vied for its inclusion but the City Planning
Commission was reluctant to grant height restrictions of any kind on the Upper West Side, according to Cynthia Doty of West Siders for Responsible Development and the Coalition to Save West Park North, who was involved in zoning negotiations.

“We were presented with the idea that if we didn’t come up with the compromise, that City Planning would pull the entire plan and we would wind up with nothing. Meanwhile, developers were lurking,” Doty said. “We didn’t wind up working on a plan for Park West Village and so tried to support other options.”

These other options included helping tenants apply to get the area land-marked for its historic rather than architectural value—Ray Charles, Duke Ellington, Max Roach, Tito Puente, and Elaine Stritch all called Park West Village home—or applying for city protections under a Special Preservation District program. The City Planning Commission was “not interested” in granting tenants status in the special district program, according to Doty. The Landmarks Preservation Commission also never brought the site up for a vote.

Meanwhile, tenants created a task-force of in-house architects and city-planners to brainstorm alternative designs to the one proposed by Gluck and Chetrit, and looked to convince Whole Foods to move to 100th Street, where traffic conditions would support the site better.

Heitner said he thought the developers never planned on taking their suggestions seriously, but Winnifred Armstrong, former president of the Tenants Association and a long-time resident of Park West Village, said: “We never really put it to the developer in any way that made it possible to consider it. There was no incentive for them to do that, it was late in the game.”

With these efforts taking up time and energy, the Tenants Association tried another tactic: a court case against the developers arguing that a technicality in the city’s contract with the initial developer allowed them to stall work for a few months. Park West Villagers lost the case, and in the summer of 2006, the commercial structures were razed and work began.

A Multitude of Meetings

The Tenants Association, their elected officials, and CB7, working with limited resources and time, tried as many strategies as they could think of to air their grievances with the developers about the “as of right” project.

There are still pending inquiries into whether or not the project is even “as of right.”
Borough president Scott Stringer expects the Department of Buildings to respond soon to a letter he wrote challenging aspects of the project which he claims may not be legal under zoning law—including types of stores that can rent at the site. The zoning law requires stores to be “neighborhood stores,” and Stringer said their size makes them “destination stores.”

Winick, the CEO of the development’s realtor, declined to comment on that issue.
But, in the meantime, tenants have aired their concerns at two monthly meetings—one to oversee construction, one for broader concerns—convened by CB7 since May, which bring them face to face with developers regularly.

Park West Villagers complain about the dust, noise, and disruption that comes with living next to a major construction site, and many consider the construction committee meetings helpful, especially in the wake of the collapse of a retaining wall at the site of the future Whole Foods this summer that brought every outraged West Side politician to the rescue of Park West Villagers for a few weeks. Representatives from city agencies attend these meetings to ensure developers are within the law as they build.

The objectives of the monthly coordinating committee are less defined, but Silver of the Borough President’s office said they are useful because they aim to ensure the efforts of various community groups aren’t duplicated.

At these meetings, tenants and developers said some issues are advanced but divisive issues like the general scale of the project and the location of Whole Foods’ future loading dock are discussed without progress.

Rosenberg, the project manager, points to major concessions—giving residents nearly full control of landscaping, retooling the heating and cooling systems so as to not blow on current tenants’ windows, and revising how trash will be handled at the site—but many tenants don’t consider these key accomplishments.

“They sit and listen, and yes us to death, and do exactly what they choose to do,” Lois Hoffmann, president of the Tenants Association, said.

“We are listening,” Rosenberg countered. “We accommodate the residents and the tenants when and where we can.”

There is a sense on both sides that talks between the two parties go around in circles, and many say because it is considered an “as of right” project, they expected it.
As Armstrong said, “nobody—politicians, residents, developer—was ready for this dialogue.” But twice a month the dialogue happens anyway.

A New Story?

On Oct. 6, the gym at the Frederick Douglass Center was packed with people eating, laughing, and talking as the band churned out jazz standards.

Gathered for their annual reunion were members of “the Old Community,” individuals whose homes on 98th and 99th Streets were razed in the late 1950s to build what would become Park West Village.

Members of Park West Village’s history group attended, including former resident of “the Old Community” Jim Torain, who put the night’s event together as he has for years now.

Sabella Curry remembered what her neighborhood looked like when she grew up there in the late ’30s and ’40s before its mostly African-American residents were evicted.

“We played jacks, we rode bikes, our mothers was always in the windows watching over us—‘get away from there! Don’t you do that! Come upstairs here!’”
Wistfully, she added, “those two blocks were like a little city of its own.”

Sara Vogel can be reached at sara.vogel@columbiaspectator.com.

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Park West Village was created under Title 1 of the Housing Act of 1949 and was required to be and remain a spaciously laid out affordable housing community. The majority of the cost of the PWV land was paid for by the Federal government. Only 20% of the land cost was provided by its original private owners. The Federal contract that enabled the City of New York to receive the federal Capital Grant precisely defines spaciousness and affordability. Most significantly the federal contract, in accordance with the legislative intent of Title 1, has no expiration period.

This federal contract by its terms and by the terms of the City's contract with the original developer is the superior contract. In other words, the expiration of the 40 year period referred to in the article does not change the legally allowable density, ground coverage or rental rates. The federal contract also requires neighborhood stores. As the Douglass Houses, a NYC Housing Authority development, are part of the neighborhood as that term is understood in the federal contract, affordable neighborhood shopping is also a legal requirement.

Besides violating the terms of the federal contract, the current development, as well as a more subtle process in which rent stabilized apartments are being removed from rent stabilization, also violate federal law.

The Housing Act of 1949 was introduced by conservative Republican Senator Robert Taft, signed into law by Harry Truman and administered initially by New Deal Democrat Raymond Foley. Under the Housing Act of 1949, the federal government gave a capital grant to NYC to create a light-filled, airy, affordable housing environment that would last indefinitely. Some may question the advisability of such a policy, but it is the law. The now threatened spaciousness and the loss of affordable rental units are private expropriations of publicly paid for assets. PWV may be privately owned but it is privately owned subject to the restrictions of the federal contract and federal law.

I am largely amazed that hundreds of millions of dollars of public value is being taken for private purposes, in violation of the Housing Act of 1949, and there has been no outrage or opposition on the part of our elected officials, nor any effort by our community leaders to properly publicize what is effectively a massive act of theft.

Michael Chenkin

Well Michael, we're only getting your version of the story. I'm sure there is more to it than that. "affordable housing" is such bullshit. You can afford to live somewhere. Just maybe not where you WANT to live. Tough shit. Thats how it works. Life isnt fair. In other words: get a grip, suck it up, and get a life. Loser.

Park West Village was created under Title 1 of the Housing Act of 1949 and was required to be and remain a spaciously laid out affordable housing community. The majority of the cost of the PWV land was paid for by the Federal government. Only 20% of the land cost was provided by its original private owners. The Federal contract that enabled the City of New York to receive the federal Capital Grant precisely defines spaciousness and affordability. Most significantly the federal contract, in accordance with the legislative intent of Title 1, has no expiration period.

This federal contract by its terms and by the terms of the City's contract with the original developer is the superior contract. In other words, the expiration of the 40 year period referred to in the article does not change the legally allowable density, ground coverage or rental rates. The federal contract also requires neighborhood stores. As the Douglass Houses, a NYC Housing Authority development, are part of the neighborhood as that term is understood in the federal contract, affordable neighborhood shopping is also a legal requirement.

Besides violating the terms of the federal contract, the current development, as well as a more subtle process in which rent stabilized apartments are being removed from rent stabilization, also violate federal law.

The Housing Act of 1949 was introduced by conservative Republican Senator Robert Taft, signed into law by Harry Truman and administered initially by New Deal Democrat Raymond Foley. Under the Housing Act of 1949, the federal government gave a capital grant to NYC to create a light-filled, airy, affordable housing environment that would last indefinitely. Some may question the advisability of such a policy, but it is the law. The now threatened spaciousness and the loss of affordable rental units are private expropriations of publicly paid for assets. PWV may be privately owned but it is privately owned subject to the restrictions of the federal contract and federal law.

I am largely amazed that hundreds of millions of dollars of public value is being taken for private purposes, in violation of the Housing Act of 1949, and there has been no outrage or opposition on the part of our elected officials, nor any effort by our community leaders to properly publicize what is effectively a massive act of theft.

As soon as a site like this requires a real name and address, you will see people like the name calling fool on here, disappear. Anyone can sling insane maniacle insults as an anonymous blog poster, (as I have just done) but in public, assuming you ever leave the screen, I'm sure you barely make a peep.

Yes because when they require a real name and address, everyone will be 100% honest and put real information in those fields. Just like when they create Hotmail addresses, Myspace pages, message board accounts etc. etc.

I agree and I'd just like to add that if I were the developers/owners of this property I would raze all of it and turn it into a parking lot..evicting all the victim-class parasites in the process. Then I'd wait five years for public outcry to settle and turn it into a high rise paradise complete with Whole Foods, Tiffany jewelers, and whatever other stores these idiot liberals probably hate because welfare-leeches cant shop there.

This all assumes the developers follow the law. I lived on 97th street for 2 years. Drilling began at ungodly hours in the morning, way before the legally allowable time. And a few months ago, a retaining wall collapsed, obviously due to shoddy and misguided construction. The pit dug for the building is literally inches away from the large residential buildings - any moron could tell that danger was lurking. Mark my words - these new buildings will again prove to be structurally dangerous and we may be in for a tragedy.

I'm middle-class and I can barely afford anything at Whole Foods. To put one right next to the Douglass Houses is just plain insulting. Way to spit in people's eyes.

Then dont shop there.

PWV was built as a community with stores for the convenience of the immediate residents. Think before you lurch out to be dismissive.

Can Spot A Fool

PWV was built with stores? No it wasn't. It was built with residential buildings only.

Look, people are getting too "political" about this issue. The issue isn't whether the stores will be good or bad for New Yorkers or for PWV residents, since owners of land can develop it and build whatever they want, subject to zoning laws which I haven't seen cited as being in violation. So there really is nothing to talk about when it comes to whether PWVers will shop at Whole Foods, or whether the stores are an intrusion into the neighborhood. PWV tenants don't control private activity in their "neighborhood" - that's simply not how private property works in this country.

The real issues are not being discussed, probably because none of you have ever been to the site. The real issue is that the noise from the construction is unbearably loud. There are constant explosions and the drilling is deafening, more so than any other construction I have ever been near. The dust is unbearable and some days the air is unbreathable. These are actual nuisances that neighbors DO have a legitimate, cognizable right to complain about. Fine, develop the property - but do so lawfully. Respect the times for drilling, and someone please enforce air quality and noise pollution laws.

Furthermore, the article gives very short shrift to the collapse of an entire retaining wall due to the construction, that forced all of the PWV and nearby residents to flee their homes. Just looking at the massive whole dug inches from the residential buildings shows even a lay person that there might be structural problems here. These are the real issues! These issues implicate actual rights of urban neighbors - the right not to hear drilling at 7am, not to have explosions scare the hell out of you in the middle of the day, the right to clean air, and the right to live next to a construction site that is not on the verge of collapsing on you any second!

In addition to the residents of Park West Village (tenants AND owners) being distressed at the development bisecting their 7-building community, the residents of neighboring buildings are concerned. Neighbors from 88th to 97th Streets, and from 100th to 105th Streets are also affected by the gentrification, by the loss of our local coffee shop and affordable stores, as well as by the noise and dust of the construction itself. Residents in these other buildings are collectively represented by the Coalition to Preserve West Park North (www.preservewpn.org).

Traffic: While not opposed to all change, we are disturbed by the long lines of 48-foot trucks we anticipate at the crack of dawn turning east from Columbus onto 97th Street, joining the 40 school buses, ambulances, mobile health center and other vehicles daily moving along that block. Delivery to Whole Foods and other stores could be accomplished on Columbus Avenue with maneuvering space UNDER the development -- but Gluck and Chetrit have been unwilling to consider that despite Whole Foods' request.

Public Infrastructure: We are unhappy that there has been no study of the public transportation, water, sewage, and school systems to show the effects of adding hundreds and hundreds of new residents.

Loss of Community: We are concerned that the owners' lack of information to local residents -- except under duress -- implies an arrogance in conflict with the strong sense of a ethnically diverse community built over 40 years.

Lack of Government Response: Our politicians seem helpless in this situation, as the Dept. of Buildings and other agencies appear to stonewall -- holding off answering important questions posed by our elected officials until their answers are moot.

We need answers.

Sue Susman, vice president
Coalition to Preserve West Park North

"Whitey" as you refer to my Caucasian neighbors have always been the majority in PWV. On my floor 70% of my neighbors are Causasian. The overall composition is only recently changing to reflect the fact that almost all new tenants in the last 3 years have been of one ethnic group. That can only be deliberate; and that creates a pall of suspicion.

Was it really necessary to make a vulgar reference to a woman who has expressed concern for her neighbors? The vulgarity diminishes your point.

Miss Goodie

"Because I've cried racism, any and all discussion of the matter is to cease because the race card trumps all."

Wow, I really thought you were being sarcastic there.

No, the race card doesn't trump all, especially not this time. I know several families who have lived in that community for at least 20 years, and they are all WHITE.

Perhaps this time when she said ethnic diversity, she really meant it.

Oh and P.S. Every time you use the word "liberal" as in insult you look like more and more of an idiot, stuck in terminology that was completely pointless and baseless even forty years ago, when the word "liberal" was used as an insult against those who protested the Vietnam War.

Well let me put it to you this way: if it's racist when whites complain about increasing crime when blacks move in, why is it not racism when the 'ethnically diverse' professional victims in this case are complaining about 'whitey' moving in? Dont like your own tactic used against you? Racist!

Come again? YOU'RE the one who insinuated that these people are complaining about "whitey." In fact, you've so far been the only one to use that word, and to see things in such "black and white" terms.

You can't put words into the mouths of commentors and then call them racist. That just makes you look like a moron.

Which you are.

liberals love pulling "rights" out of their asses

the tenants can move on when the leases expire to the next "affordable" hellhole they can afford

the property owners dont owe anyone anything, except to improve the area if they can

if improving the area means outpricing the parasites then so be it

god stop whining

if you want to improve the situation, go buy up all the buildings and let these wonderful citizens live in them for 100 bucks a month, you can lose money hand over fist

stupid ass liberals

You poor merciless soul,

We are a Nation of "rights." As soon as you feel that your "rights" are being trampled you will likely reach out to the nearest liberal.

I would not want to identify myself either if I had posted such a blatent, heartless mischaracterization of the destruction of Park West Village.

If you know anything about development "rights" you know that they are complex and were put in place to protect the intelligence, and tax dollars that went into planning a community that was architecturally sound, fostered positive social interaction and provided safe circulation. Here, the developers' "rights" have been devilishly contrived without the benefit of a public planning process that would have benefited the immediate Park West Village community and its surrounding neighbors. A public review likely would not have robbed the developers of any reasonable profit and would have gained them goodwill, and resulted in a more reasonable freshening up of Park West Village.

No one in Park West Village is paying anything near $100 for monthly rental of an apartment. When Park West Village opened in 1958 the rents were $30 per room, and they have been increased every year under the rent stabilization laws. In fact, measured against the CPI, many apartments in Park west Village have increased at a greater rate (due to turnover). Renters are not getting a free ride.

Park West Villagers are not whining. At the onset of the destruction of Park West Village - before any permits were obtained, before any ground was broken- we met and devised a reasonable plan; presented it to our Borough President and requested his assistance with bringing the developer together with the Community Board, and pertinent City agencies to work on a plan that would benefit the developers and not offend, but serve the community. Among our requests, was that the pedestrian walkways between the buildings on the west side of Park West Village not be turned into a three block thruway. We did not whine. We presented alternate designs and we politely asked, as taxpayers, for representation. We politely asked -2 years ago- for a task force to consider our concerns.

The commercial strip in Park West Village did need some imporvement. The tennis courts, as a source of revenue (and for several other reasons), were inappropriate. The commercial overlay on Columbus Avenue needed to be planned, designed and updated, but in-keeping with the overall design and needs of the community. And that's all. That would have netted the developer's a handsome sum.

Park West Village was not some underdeveloped, blighted swath of land. The residential buildings in Park West Village were specifically structured so that each resident would have a modicum of privacy, plenty of light and free circulating air, reasonable views--yes views, safe pedestrian walkways, safe vehicular access to each building and lots of landscaped open space (not artificial open space) to help keep the air clean. Park West Village and the other communities similarly designed, as built are the ideal. There are plenty of underdeveloped areas that could have been purchased and improved.

All we needed was a decent commercial strip with stores for the convenience of the local neighborhood--just as the New York City Zoning Resolution prescribes. I am not going to stoop to calling you "a dumb ass" but do you think with a Rite-Aid, a CVS and a Duane Reade within 1,2 and 3 blocks, respctively, Park West Village needs a Duane Reade on the corner of 97th Street and Columbus Avenue? Of course not. Do we need a Children's Place? Naw! Do we need any big box store to deaden our streets? No. We kindly told the developer what we need. What we need we will sustain. What we do not need will lay fallow. The developer has pulled so much FAR out of his "as of right" hat that he is building more commercial space than is warranted. Over building will make a wasteland on Columbus Avenue and invite "city campers" to our neighborhood. Three continuous blocks of 23' high storefront, punctuated by 2 alleys, will invite unsavory interlopers.

More residential than is practical is also being built. In the late 1940s when the then Manhattantown neighborhood was surveyed, it was deemed overcrowded. Park West Village and Douglass Houses were designed to house residents into new and better accomodations, while not creating an impratical level of density in the neighborhood. The federal government limited the density.

Who has determined and by what mechanism has any public elected or appointed official determined that the "rights" which the developers claim are legitimate? There has been no public process to determine that the population density is sustainable. Again, developer has pulled extra FAR out of his "as of right" hat, using the community facility hat trick. He is building a 31-story high residential structure where he should be limited to one residential building 14-16 stories on the east side of Columbus Avenue. A building 323 feet high is out-of-scale with the immediate community, and that will cast a significant portion of Park West Village into darkness all day long (not to mention, the people who will be staring int each other's windows).

So, what good does this over-development portend? The 7,000 or so residents of this community eventually will have a supermarket, albeit, one not centered in the community, albeit one that is too expensive for most of the neighborhood, albeit one that does not sell many of the ordinary items we all expect to find in a supermarket and one that has already turned its back on the community while passing itself of as a corporate (dare I say, liberal) "do-gooder."

Why are youso hostile towards persons who need affordable housing and persons who do not want to live in the midst of destrution for several years?

You refer to "stupid ass liberals." How would you characterize yourself?

There must obviously be a market for Whole Foods to be built there, else they would not spend millions building one. I trust they have done their due dilligence to ensure a 'return on investment'. If the demand wasnt there, it wouldt exist.

Also, there is plenty of affordable housing. If it becomes unaffordable to live in that area. Than move. If they dont want to live 'in the midst of destruction' then move.

You arent garaunteed rent courtesy of tax dollars. The Constitution doesnt give you the right to leech from my paycheck just so you can live wherever you want.

Again: you are all whining. You dont own any of the property you are crying about, therefore the rest of your argument is shrillish baseless crrying. so just shut the fuck up. And move.

I don't see how you can possibly be fighting for the "rights" of the property owners unless you are one of them.

I mean, that is the only possible explanation for why you are being so unbelievably repulsive that allows you to maintain some semblance of humanity. Either you are one of the property owners currently fighting for the development of this space (in which case, go to hell anyway) or you are so disgustingly wealthy that you can afford to buy up all of Manhattan and therefore will never have an issue like this come knocking at your (undoubtedly bought and paid for with your own good blood-sweat-and-tears money) Condo doors.

Either way, you come off looking like the most evil specimen of semi-human kind to exist on the face of the planet.

Have a nice day.

"liberals love pulling "rights" out of their asses"

"stupid ass liberals"

Sorry, pal. You just gave yourself away.

Not as a conservative (which you obviously are, and which is enough of an insulting term and and of itself that I don't have to but "stupid ass" before it to make it so), but as someone with the cleverness of a twelve-year-old by using the words "stupid ass" to make your point.

Oh, and by calling people who live in rent-controlled apartments "parasites." Who the hell are you? Unless you ARE one of these property owners (which you very well may be by the way you are defending them) you have to be ashamed to look at yourself in the mirror every morning for thinking so little of people who have less money than you do.

But then again, you are exactly the kind of person this new New York is welcoming with open arms.

They ARE parasites because they DARE to complain! They dare to complain when they are given a HANDOUT in the form of cheap rent, and on the taxpayers dime at that! Now they want to complain? Seriously, if they dont like it...the can fucking move just like anyone else would in that situation. Victim-class parasites.

Corrections:

"enough of an insulting term IN and of itself"

"I don't have to PUT "stupid ass" before..."

I'm obviously so incensed I'm making typos.

Some of us residents of Park West Village are tenants; others of of us are condominium owners. All of us are community stakeholders. Surely we as a society can do better than to reduce our citizens' claim on quality of life to a matter of legal property rights.

Ditto.

No. If people dont like it: move. Property rights trump all.

This is hysterical. All of these people RENT. They do not OWN. They organize and whine and presume to tell the property owners what they can and cant do with thier own property? If I were an investor, landlord, or developer in New York..I would say to hell with it and move on to a different state or city. Oh, and then the 'tenants' would be in an uproar over lack of jobs and development...so the evil developers cant win either way.

The biggest pet peeve with these 'organized tenants' is that WHITE people are going to move into the area. And when whites move into the area the cost of living goes up because we dont put up with any crap like thuggery, bad schools, or cockroach infested liquor stores. I think thats the real issue here.

I also really love your mentioning the fact that most of these people "RENT. They do not OWN" as if this were somehow a decision they had made because they were lazy. Or cheap. Or just plain stupid.

Most of these people "RENT. They do not OWN" because they could never afford to own. And they decided to rent in a place that, as one of them said, offered them "comparatively lower rents and a sense of community."

I ask you, how is this that much different from you waking up one day in the house you OWN and realizing that the entire neighborhood has been torn down around you, replaced with glass and steel condos, banks, and a "sporting goods store"? These people have rent control, as the article mentioned. So I don't think their concern is that their rents are going to go up, but rather that what they effectively "bought into" when they decided to pick up a lease in one of these buildings will soon no longer exist.

They have a perfectly valid right to want to keep it the way it is, and to fight for it.

"They have a perfectly valid right to want to keep it the way it is, and to fight for it."
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Actually, as tenants, they do not. Just because you want it them to have the right to keep the area the same, does not mean that it exists.

Furthermore, if they disagree with their surroundings, they are free to move and rent somewhere else more agreeable to their tastes.

The property owners can do what they want. Key word: owners.

It doesnt really matter how much you dislike it but welcome to a capitalist society. Move to Cuba if you hate it so much.

Actually, as residents, taxpayers and citizens we do.

Or is that why the certain "leaders" have stood by and done nothing?

Oh well, we can still vote!

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